Bruce Schneier is an internationally-renowned security technologist, author, and educator. The focus of his work is the intersection of security, technology and people. Examples of his well-known books include Liars and Outliers and Data and Goliath, which provide much-needed insight to readers about trust, data, monopolies, and regulation. Bruce lectures in public policy at the Harvard Kennedy School and is a fellow at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society. In our conversation, we discuss decentralization, trust, regulation, and much more,